Re: Black list of false or questionable comrades

[Bob the terrorist]

I fail to see how it would have any more problems than the way it is done now, but I see the '1 party = 1 vote' system as unfair. The system gives smaller parties a much larger 'voice' per head. Besides, let's be honest - the forums need some shaking up, and active participation would be a great way to increase activity. There would also be more people thinking about internationale stuff - it would be better publicised because of that and there would be more stuff going on. Now, for an actual critique of Maksim's post...

I'm of the opinion that each party must discuss independently their opinion of a matter and have their delegation vote according to those wishes. A representive in the Internationale is merely a middle-man between the parties around the e-world and the party they represent.

I can say as a PCP member that there is little if any discussion on internationale matters (excluding the GOSPLAN), and that's because not enough people are involved with it. If you want an inclusive organisation, you have to give people a stake, rather than one person from each party having a voice. Yes, in theory the representative is a middle man, and of course I have no problem with johnobrow representing PCP, but the fact remains that it's more the rep's own judgement than the party's.

The reason why we have a Congress in the first place is to avoid a dictatorship of the majority. This means that the PCP and PCE could form a coalition and dominate the Internationale, thus force their will on the members of the Internationale (it's just an example).

This is relying on the assumption that PCP/PCE have some kind of mental control of our members. In practice, most of us here in the internationale are libertarian parties who do not force the 'party line' on their members - as well as the fact that we *can't* force any party line.

[Maksim Chuikov]

I fail to see how it would have any more problems than the way it is done now, but I see the '1 party = 1 vote' system as unfair. The system gives smaller parties a much larger 'voice' per head. Besides, let's be honest - the forums need some shaking up, and active participation would be a great way to increase activity. There would also be more people thinking about internationale stuff - it would be better publicised because of that and there would be more stuff going on. Now, for an actual critique of Maksim's post...

I'm of the opinion that each party must discuss independently their opinion of a matter and have their delegation vote according to those wishes. A representive in the Internationale is merely a middle-man between the parties around the e-world and the party they represent.

I can say as a PCP member that there is little if any discussion on internationale matters (excluding the GOSPLAN), and that's because not enough people are involved with it. If you want an inclusive organisation, you have to give people a stake, rather than one person from each party having a voice. Yes, in theory the representative is a middle man, and of course I have no problem with johnobrow representing PCP, but the fact remains that it's more the rep's own judgement than the party's.

The reason why we have a Congress in the first place is to avoid a dictatorship of the majority. This means that the PCP and PCE could form a coalition and dominate the Internationale, thus force their will on the members of the Internationale (it's just an example).

This is relying on the assumption that PCP/PCE have some kind of mental control of our members. In practice, most of us here in the internationale are libertarian parties who do not force the 'party line' on their members - as well as the fact that we *can't* force any party line.

That's the reason we have representives in the first place, to increase activity within the party's aswell. It's a way to get people interested on a domestic level of international affairs. I'm in very good standing with the Finnish SPP, I'd almost consider it my second party. Kaller, the representive from SPP updates the party regularly on matters in the Internationale. I've noticed that the members of SPP are very engaged in the international affairs even if they're relatively small compared to the bigger parties. I'm not saying this is all because of the active representive giving his party updates, I'm merely saying this has an affect.

If we turn this into a direct-democratic institution then it'll become a party where the most active ones keep posting. This means we'll increase the activity amongst the ones who read the forum, it doesn't solve the problem of including other parties.

Let's not forget the language problem. There's a lot of Russians, Italians, French, Spanish and so forth who don't speak English. This means we'd either have to translate every single post into the national languages or have one or several persons from each party translate the general proposal and arguments. I fail to see how this would increase the general activity outside the small English-speaking community.

- M. Chuikov

[Bob the terrorist]

As I've learned there are some reforms in progress, I'll put this on hold...
for now.

[Brian Boru]

Overcoming the language problem is relatively simple.

Link people to Google Translate, tell people to post in correct language and have them post in their own languages, with the exception being the titles of threads.

[Maksim Chuikov]

Overcoming the language problem is relatively simple.

Link people to Google Translate, tell people to post in correct language and have them post in their own languages, with the exception being the titles of threads.

We've tried this on the CPSU forums. We've even tried to install a google translator module like we have on the Gosplan forum. This hasn't worked out on the CPSU forums yet. I'm not sure how many, or if any other party has attempted this either. Usually English-speaking far-leftists find themselves in eAustralia, -UK, -USA or -countries with a semi-English program like the -German KPeD.

- M. Chuikov

[MachtGeil]

yea we have some english speaking comrades

[Ruaidhrí Garvey]

I would also like to add about Sandra mack/Gertrude Groan that she is robbing from the Slovak communes so I certainly think she should be on the list.Every few days she donates a few gold to one of her orgs
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http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/donate/list/1533400/4

[Simonov]

I would like to add Adamak, ex Czech comrade from Poland. He was always lost in our projects, asked questions like he is some brainwashed nazi. Then he showed he is traitor and he is in extreme right party in Poland and he wrote this awful article.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-fail-called-communism-1308151/1/20

[MachtGeil]

i support this

[Manic Eskimo]

I agree I have witnessed his betrayals first hand during my time in eCzech

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