URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
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Osmany Ramon
Maksim Chuikov
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URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
And so comrades, we have reached step 4 of the plan:
1. Create a constitution
2. Discuss it of approval.
3. Discuss the articles.
4. Vote the articles.
5. Enact the constitution.
I will enlist here all that you have to vote. Please keep it organized as the example below so to ensure that counting will be fast and easy. If you find something that you don't know, you can visit the "Constitution discussions" threads and read there.
Voting will be closed in 7 days, which mean members can vote until 4 September.
Example of voting:
a.1.
b.2
c.3
and so on...
Constitution article voting
Please choose the numbers you are agree upon:
a.About the members of the Internationale that have the right to vote(so basically which consist the Congress)
1.Proportional representation by the number of party members
2.Equal representation from all parties around the world
3.Unlimited membership (each party can send how many it wants)
4.1 voting member from each party, appointed for a period of 3 months or more
5.1 voting member from each party appointed for a period of less than 3 months
6.One party, one vote
b.Working groups of the Internationale
1.Departments: Fund-raising, Human Resources, Media&Publicity +/- other departments
2.Working groups: International Outlook, People's Power, Social Revenue +/- other groups
c.Membership fees
1.Amount of gold monthly from each party (please specify how much)
2.Amount of gold weekly from each party (please specify how much)
3.Amount of gold monthly from each voting member (please specify how much)
4.Amount of gold weekly from each voting member (please specify how much)
5.No fees.
d.Organizations of the Internationale (inside eR)
1.One Internationale Organization per country
2.One Internationale Organization per continent
3.One Internationale Organization per 2 continents
4.One central Internationale Organization
e.Punishments
1.Any kind of damage to the Internationale or its members from another member consists an infraction and the Congress will punish him/her.
2.Any kind of damage to the Internationale or its members from another member does not consist an infraction and the Congress will not punish him/her.
f.Constitution of the Internationale
1.All leftist (center-left or far-left) parties around the world.
2.All parties around the world that have at least a commune/ wish to create one.
3.All far-left parties around the world.
g.Name of the Internationale
1.Comintern
2.Internationale
3.l'Internationale
4.eInternational
1. Create a constitution
2. Discuss it of approval.
3. Discuss the articles.
4. Vote the articles.
5. Enact the constitution.
I will enlist here all that you have to vote. Please keep it organized as the example below so to ensure that counting will be fast and easy. If you find something that you don't know, you can visit the "Constitution discussions" threads and read there.
Voting will be closed in 7 days, which mean members can vote until 4 September.
Example of voting:
a.1.
b.2
c.3
and so on...
Constitution article voting
Please choose the numbers you are agree upon:
a.About the members of the Internationale that have the right to vote(so basically which consist the Congress)
1.Proportional representation by the number of party members
2.Equal representation from all parties around the world
3.Unlimited membership (each party can send how many it wants)
4.1 voting member from each party, appointed for a period of 3 months or more
5.1 voting member from each party appointed for a period of less than 3 months
6.One party, one vote
b.Working groups of the Internationale
1.Departments: Fund-raising, Human Resources, Media&Publicity +/- other departments
2.Working groups: International Outlook, People's Power, Social Revenue +/- other groups
c.Membership fees
1.Amount of gold monthly from each party (please specify how much)
2.Amount of gold weekly from each party (please specify how much)
3.Amount of gold monthly from each voting member (please specify how much)
4.Amount of gold weekly from each voting member (please specify how much)
5.No fees.
d.Organizations of the Internationale (inside eR)
1.One Internationale Organization per country
2.One Internationale Organization per continent
3.One Internationale Organization per 2 continents
4.One central Internationale Organization
e.Punishments
1.Any kind of damage to the Internationale or its members from another member consists an infraction and the Congress will punish him/her.
2.Any kind of damage to the Internationale or its members from another member does not consist an infraction and the Congress will not punish him/her.
f.Constitution of the Internationale
1.All leftist (center-left or far-left) parties around the world.
2.All parties around the world that have at least a commune/ wish to create one.
3.All far-left parties around the world.
g.Name of the Internationale
1.Comintern
2.Internationale
3.l'Internationale
4.eInternational
Last edited by Nero Superbus on Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:04 am; edited 1 time in total
Nero Superbus- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
a.6
b.2
c.1 (the larger the party the larger the tax, all taxes start from 0.1 gold)
d.2
e.1
f.1
g.2
b.2
c.1 (the larger the party the larger the tax, all taxes start from 0.1 gold)
d.2
e.1
f.1
g.2
Nero Superbus- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
a.6
b.2
c.5(After recent events have taken place, I've seen how hard it would be for parties to spend gold for this when we have much more important things to do right now, like resistance wars.
d.1
e.2(We cannot punish members for "hurting" members of the Internationale or the organization itself. Just last week I ripped a socialist a new one because I didn't feel like he knew anything about socialism but was calling himself a socialist. Under number one, I would be punished for calling out what I saw as something fraduelant if he was a member. I will not get "punished" for dissent.)
f.3(I only say this because most center-left parties I find are more like reformist capitalists who don't want to really change the system.)
g.3(It would look more correct. But I really don't care about this as long as we don't choose number four because I'm starting to get tired of "e" anything.)
b.2
c.5(After recent events have taken place, I've seen how hard it would be for parties to spend gold for this when we have much more important things to do right now, like resistance wars.
d.1
e.2(We cannot punish members for "hurting" members of the Internationale or the organization itself. Just last week I ripped a socialist a new one because I didn't feel like he knew anything about socialism but was calling himself a socialist. Under number one, I would be punished for calling out what I saw as something fraduelant if he was a member. I will not get "punished" for dissent.)
f.3(I only say this because most center-left parties I find are more like reformist capitalists who don't want to really change the system.)
g.3(It would look more correct. But I really don't care about this as long as we don't choose number four because I'm starting to get tired of "e" anything.)
Fredrick Engels- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
a.5
b.1
c.2: at least 1 gold, if the party is poor, the fee can be negotiated to a lower fee.
d.2
e.2
f.3
g.2
b.1
c.2: at least 1 gold, if the party is poor, the fee can be negotiated to a lower fee.
d.2
e.2
f.3
g.2
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My Votes
a. 2
b. 2
c. 1 (should be nominal, like 1 Gold per member party. Real fundraising should be done separately.)
d. 2
e. 2
f. 3
g. 2
b. 2
c. 1 (should be nominal, like 1 Gold per member party. Real fundraising should be done separately.)
d. 2
e. 2
f. 3
g. 2
Osmany Ramon- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
I think an extension would be sensible. Say an extra 7 days?
Some of us are busy with CP elections.
Some of us are busy with CP elections.
Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
a. 2
b. 2
c. 2 (1 gold)
d. 4
e. 2
f. 3
g. 2
b. 2
c. 2 (1 gold)
d. 4
e. 2
f. 3
g. 2
stancel- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
a) 5
b) 1
c) 1 Each individual party should negotiate a fee - party size and wealth should be main considerations
d) Abstain.
e) 2
f) 2 - Changed my mind.
g) 2
b) 1
c) 1 Each individual party should negotiate a fee - party size and wealth should be main considerations
d) Abstain.
e) 2
f) 2 - Changed my mind.
g) 2
Last edited by johnobrow on Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
So is the voting done?
Fredrick Engels- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
Johnobrow extended it with another 7 days, so techniclly the polls are still open until 11th September.
Maksim Chuikov- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
a) 5
b) 1
c) 1 Each individual party should negotiate a fee - party size and wealth should be main considerations
d) 1 - What comrade Maksim said.
e) 2
f) 2 - Changed my mind.
g) 2
b) 1
c) 1 Each individual party should negotiate a fee - party size and wealth should be main considerations
d) 1 - What comrade Maksim said.
e) 2
f) 2 - Changed my mind.
g) 2
lxbrtldisaad- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
I changed my vote on point d to 2. There might be some far-left parties that just die, vanish or move somewhere else and then we've lost 5 gold. We must save some resources. Later-on we can create specific organizations within a hierarchy in which the continent organization is the headquarters for that continent.
Currently they should be North-america, atlantic area, eastern-europe & middle-east, asia and perhaps south america. We might have to include south africa into the asian organization.
Currently they should be North-america, atlantic area, eastern-europe & middle-east, asia and perhaps south america. We might have to include south africa into the asian organization.
Maksim Chuikov- Comrade
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A - 1
B - 1
C - I'm in split minds as to this one; being new to the Internationale, I don't know whether it is necessary; in my view, funding for communes and new parties would better be gained more directly. So I'll abstain, if possible.
D - Does this matter, at all? Still, 4 is probably preferable.
E - Again, does this matter? If someone hypothetically does damage the Internationale, how do you enforce the punishment? So 2 really for me.
F - 1, though likely the members would tend to be in group '2' anyway.
G - 2
B - 1
C - I'm in split minds as to this one; being new to the Internationale, I don't know whether it is necessary; in my view, funding for communes and new parties would better be gained more directly. So I'll abstain, if possible.
D - Does this matter, at all? Still, 4 is probably preferable.
E - Again, does this matter? If someone hypothetically does damage the Internationale, how do you enforce the punishment? So 2 really for me.
F - 1, though likely the members would tend to be in group '2' anyway.
G - 2
Draaglom- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
a) 5
b) 1
c) 1
d) 1
e) 2
f) 2
g) 2
b) 1
c) 1
d) 1
e) 2
f) 2
g) 2
Autochthon Scion- Comrade
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Re: URGENT: VOTING THE ARTICLES OF THE CONSTITUTION
Voting is officially closed.
I will make the constitution, and leave it for vote of members another 3-4 days.
After that, all will be OFFICIAL.
I will make the constitution, and leave it for vote of members another 3-4 days.
After that, all will be OFFICIAL.
Nero Superbus- Comrade
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