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Post  Nero Superbus Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:59 am

And so comrades, we have reached step 4 of the plan:
1. Create a constitution
2. Discuss it of approval.
3. Discuss the articles.
4. Vote the articles.
5. Enact the constitution.

I will enlist here all that you have to vote. Please keep it organized as the example below so to ensure that counting will be fast and easy. If you find something that you don't know, you can visit the "Constitution discussions" threads and read there.
Voting will be closed in 7 days, which mean members can vote until 4 September.

Example of voting:
a.1.
b.2
c.3
and so on...

Constitution article voting
Please choose the numbers you are agree upon:


a.About the members of the Internationale that have the right to vote(so basically which consist the Congress)

1.Proportional representation by the number of party members
2.Equal representation from all parties around the world
3.Unlimited membership (each party can send how many it wants)
4.1 voting member from each party, appointed for a period of 3 months or more
5.1 voting member from each party appointed for a period of less than 3 months
6.One party, one vote

b.Working groups of the Internationale

1.Departments: Fund-raising, Human Resources, Media&Publicity +/- other departments
2.Working groups: International Outlook, People's Power, Social Revenue +/- other groups

c.Membership fees

1.Amount of gold monthly from each party (please specify how much)
2.Amount of gold weekly from each party (please specify how much)
3.Amount of gold monthly from each voting member (please specify how much)
4.Amount of gold weekly from each voting member (please specify how much)
5.No fees.

d.Organizations of the Internationale (inside eR)

1.One Internationale Organization per country
2.One Internationale Organization per continent
3.One Internationale Organization per 2 continents
4.One central Internationale Organization

e.Punishments

1.Any kind of damage to the Internationale or its members from another member consists an infraction and the Congress will punish him/her.
2.Any kind of damage to the Internationale or its members from another member does not consist an infraction and the Congress will not punish him/her.

f.Constitution of the Internationale

1.All leftist (center-left or far-left) parties around the world.
2.All parties around the world that have at least a commune/ wish to create one.
3.All far-left parties around the world.

g.Name of the Internationale

1.Comintern
2.Internationale
3.l'Internationale
4.eInternational


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Post  Nero Superbus Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:01 am

a.6
b.2
c.1 (the larger the party the larger the tax, all taxes start from 0.1 gold)
d.2
e.1
f.1
g.2
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Post  Fredrick Engels Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:18 pm

a.6
b.2
c.5(After recent events have taken place, I've seen how hard it would be for parties to spend gold for this when we have much more important things to do right now, like resistance wars.
d.1
e.2(We cannot punish members for "hurting" members of the Internationale or the organization itself. Just last week I ripped a socialist a new one because I didn't feel like he knew anything about socialism but was calling himself a socialist. Under number one, I would be punished for calling out what I saw as something fraduelant if he was a member. I will not get "punished" for dissent.)
f.3(I only say this because most center-left parties I find are more like reformist capitalists who don't want to really change the system.)
g.3(It would look more correct. But I really don't care about this as long as we don't choose number four because I'm starting to get tired of "e" anything.)
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Post  Maksim Chuikov Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:06 am

a.5
b.1
c.2: at least 1 gold, if the party is poor, the fee can be negotiated to a lower fee.
d.2
e.2
f.3
g.2


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Post  Osmany Ramon Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:39 pm

a. 2
b. 2
c. 1 (should be nominal, like 1 Gold per member party. Real fundraising should be done separately.)
d. 2
e. 2
f. 3
g. 2
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Post  johnobrow Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:29 pm

I think an extension would be sensible. Say an extra 7 days?

Some of us are busy with CP elections.
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Post  stancel Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:35 am

a. 2
b. 2
c. 2 (1 gold)
d. 4
e. 2
f. 3
g. 2

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Post  johnobrow Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:31 am

a) 5
b) 1
c) 1 Each individual party should negotiate a fee - party size and wealth should be main considerations
d) Abstain.
e) 2
f) 2 - Changed my mind.
g) 2


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Post  Fredrick Engels Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:51 pm

So is the voting done?
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Post  Maksim Chuikov Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:47 pm

Johnobrow extended it with another 7 days, so techniclly the polls are still open until 11th September.
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Post  lxbrtldisaad Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:08 pm

a) 5
b) 1
c) 1 Each individual party should negotiate a fee - party size and wealth should be main considerations
d) 1 - What comrade Maksim said.
e) 2
f) 2 - Changed my mind.
g) 2

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Post  Maksim Chuikov Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:25 pm

I changed my vote on point d to 2. There might be some far-left parties that just die, vanish or move somewhere else and then we've lost 5 gold. We must save some resources. Later-on we can create specific organizations within a hierarchy in which the continent organization is the headquarters for that continent.

Currently they should be North-america, atlantic area, eastern-europe & middle-east, asia and perhaps south america. We might have to include south africa into the asian organization.
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Post  Draaglom Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:46 pm

A - 1
B - 1
C - I'm in split minds as to this one; being new to the Internationale, I don't know whether it is necessary; in my view, funding for communes and new parties would better be gained more directly. So I'll abstain, if possible.

D - Does this matter, at all? Still, 4 is probably preferable.

E - Again, does this matter? If someone hypothetically does damage the Internationale, how do you enforce the punishment? So 2 really for me.

F - 1, though likely the members would tend to be in group '2' anyway.

G - 2

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Post  Autochthon Scion Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:52 pm

a) 5
b) 1
c) 1
d) 1
e) 2
f) 2
g) 2

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Post  Nero Superbus Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:58 am

Voting is officially closed.
I will make the constitution, and leave it for vote of members another 3-4 days.
After that, all will be OFFICIAL.
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